dria: Firefox 3 Bookmarks (My god, it’s full of stars…)
George
· 1 year ago
Just two things:
1. Mozilla should start the new "social" by creating spaces for people to sync their bookmarks across computers saving their bookmarks online, then other stuff will come for sure but that is just a start.
2. Is there a way to standardize a meta tag for "tags" in web pages so this one click bookmarking feature adds the tags by itself?
Nice blog btw!
Shea
· 1 year ago
Nice post! I remember using a bookmarking tool called Coreap (coreap.com I think) sometime back, that was a mix between this Firefox Bookmarks feature and del.icio.us. It was a phenomenal online tool plus browser plugin. Too bad it disappeared.
Damian
· 1 year ago
George,
There are firefox extensions that will let you save your bookmarks online - thus synced across multiple computers.
James
· 1 year ago
Great, especially the 2001 quote!
Jeff
· 1 year ago
These feature look great - especially tags.
But, what about Keywords? I have added special keywords to my most used bookmarks so that I can type the keyword in the address bar and the browser will load the bookmark associated with that keyword.
This feature appears to be missing...?
LordDante
· 1 year ago
try yoonoo firefox extension for online sync
Chris
· 1 year ago
@ George. Try Foxmarks, its an extension which does exactly what you are suggesting. http://foxmarks.com/
Endolith
· 1 year ago
del.icio.us already has a bookmarks extension that has a lot of similar features and syncs to their website (can be private or public), letting you "sync" from one computer to another.
I am sure they'll update it to mesh perfectly with Firefox's built-in system. I can't wait!
Use Foxmarks to sync bookmarks across multiple computers
John
· 1 year ago
Brian French:
Too bad it doesn't work with Firefox 3 yet though.
Aaron Bassett
· 1 year ago
I currently have 4300+ bookmarks in del.icio.us, all with multiple tags, some with notes and other meta data. This seems like an awful lot of information for Firefox to store, and how is it going to effect the memory usage and startup times? Plus if something should happen, drive failure, file corruption, etc - I just lost all my bookmarks, I don't have that worry with del.icio.us :)
Allan Graves
· 1 year ago
Google Browser sync does not work with ff3. However, weave, a mozilla labs project, does. And it seems to be working just fine right now:
^ I agree with Aaron above, I have hundreds of bookmarks and this may affect the resource usage of my browser. Del.icio.us is great.
Andreas Kalsch
· 1 year ago
The simplest way to do this AND to save your bookmarks remotely is to use the del.icio.us extension - so you can use all this in FF 2, too. The bookmarks are synchronized between server and browser if you are online.
are bookmarks side-search-able? that's easily the killer feature that make Flock my browser of choice, and what i hope to see available out of the box with Firefox 3.
Marty Fried
· 1 year ago
Rufas, do you mean sidebar? If so, check out del.icio.us for their firefox plugin. It has the tagging feature, plus it syncs multiple computers, plus it allows sharing if you want. It displays a tree with nodes organized by tags, and also displays your local bookmarks in another pane. You can search across both together.
There are more features, but it's pretty hard to beat on these few alone.
Lindsey
· 1 year ago
This is so awesome, I can't wait. I have so many bookmarks that could be considered a part of 2/3 different folders I have so the tagging is perfect!
meLon
· 1 year ago
Ragnarok!!! <3
Austin
· 1 year ago
George, I use Google Browser Sync. It allows you to save Bookmarks, History, and even the tab(s) you had open when you closed Firefox last. As of today (April 23rd) it isn't supported in Firefox 3, but it's still a great choice.
ET
· 1 year ago
Is there a bookmark search, similar to history search? It'd be nice if bookmarks were also timestamped (time created or modified) so I could then sort by oldest and get rid of lots of junk no longer needed.
TurboFool
· 1 year ago
I wanted to comment about something that amazes me with the new Smart Bookmarks. In particular, it's the Most Visited function that's build right in. I've been watching it ever since I started using it, and it's drastically smarter than I would have expected it to be. See, I leave certain tabs open at all times. Every time I open Firefox, they're there, and I rely on that. They're nowhere to be found in the Most Visited, despite the fact that I have them open 24/7. And I see that as a good thing, because if they're always open, why the heck would I want them taking up space in that function? Still, I could argue that this is simply because I'm never technically revisiting the pages, so it's not counting them as new visits.
That's countered by the more important one, though. I have a folder in my Bookmarks toolbar in Firefox for the sites I visit daily. Pretty much rain or shine, I visit these ten sites every single day. Without question, these ARE my most-visited sites. And yet somehow the Smart Bookmarks knows not to list them in my Most Visited section. As though it's somehow pieced together that since I have a folder I middle-click every day that takes care of that for me, it can safely ignore those pages and only list the sites I don't access that way.
I'm wondering what logic is going on behind the scenes to direct this behavior, and who at Mozilla knew habits like mine well enough to plan for it. It's arguably the most intelligent behavior I've ever seen in a program of this type, and I love it. Kudos, Mozilla.
jazzndre
· 1 year ago
What ff3 version are those screenshots of? Some nightly build? My 3.0b5 doesn't show transparent panel, it's opaque like menu etc.
Jason
· 1 year ago
Waffles ;)
BinnyVA
· 1 year ago
Its a good feature - but I think using del.icio.us is better. The advantages of using del.icio.us are - Available on different systems - The social aspect - Sharing through widgets is possible - and more...
Robert MacEwan
· 1 year ago
Just thought I'd mention that the Google sync was very unstable on Linux.
Nick
· 1 year ago
Im also on a mac and my UI looks very different for the beta, have u modded yours or anything?
That transparent view is part of the latest nightly beta of Firefox 3, using the Proto theme
Sheila
· 1 year ago
So is it time to download Firefox 3?
Like you, I have a bookmarks sidebar that works if I can remember a search word that will display what I want on a short list.
But more important than fixing this now are the better habits I already have. Have many extensions caught up?
Nick
· 1 year ago
You didn't mention how to retrieve your starred bookmarks- which IMO is completely non intuitive. if you don't put it in a folder the only way I see to get at them is in the smart bookmarks folder.
So I take it they got rid of the description field and keyword field? I'm curious if Quick Search bookmarks are going away. I like being able to type: dict whatever and have it look up whatever on dictionary.com without me having to type it in or use the changeable search on the topright.
seeker
· 1 year ago
BOOKMARK SYNC: I've used both the google and foxmarks product, and though the google product does MORE than sync bookmarks, it is annoying because every two weeks (which comes more often than you think) it forces you to log in again. Foxmarks is excellent, and you can use it in ff35b if you get the beta. http://blog.foxmarks.com/?p=118
USE FF3? beta 4 was buggy, but beta 5 is nice, it is definitely time to download. the only drawback is many (about half?) of the extensions out there don't yet support b5. A few of my most critical ones, (FEBE/CLEO, Tab Mix Plus, Better Gmail, Better Greader, and Tiny Menu) still don't work in b5.
some of the web sites do not display the icons on the favorites bar. it will be nice if they could let us choose/change an icon for each web site in it's properties dialogue box
Jay
· 1 year ago
Wow. I didn't read the whole thing but I hope it makes exporting and backing up bookmarks easier as well. Be nice to have a standard here amongst all browsers.
robuka kenderle
· 1 year ago
They did a nice thing for people with sight problems with the zoom a la Opera but then they blow it totally by having the location bar drop down menu fonts be extra thin. Brilliant, make it even harder to see than before.
And while we are at it. Why is it that you cannot use the CTLR+ to make fonts bigger when you open the Bookmarks in a separate window?
People who cant see can always make fonts bigger in the browser but cant make them bigger in the Bookmarks Manager. No continuity of thought. IF you cant see well in one, your eyesight is still gonna be bad in the other.
Much easier to add bookmarks though.
mawrya
· 1 year ago
@ Nick: do you mean "tagged" bookmarks? In Firefox 3, ALL bookmarks are represented with a star icon, so I'm not sure what you mean by "starred bookmarks". Consider it a merging of the IE "favorites" and Mozilla "bookmarks". IE had the nice star icon but Mozilla had the more logical "bookmarks" name for referring to saved URLs. Combine them and we have bookmarks that flagged as such using a star icon.
If you are referring to tagged bookmarks, the article did mention, even shows a picture of accessing tagged bookmarks by opening up the master "Tags" folder in the bookmarks organizer and clicking on a named tag icon. So, you don't need to use a smart bookmarks folder to get at them. Of course the easiest way to access tagged bookmarks is to just type the tag name(s) into the URL bar. When you do, you instantly realize why it has been dubbed the "Awesome Bar", all the bookmarks show up with little tag or star icons. Very intuitive, maybe even natural.
mawrya
· 1 year ago
@ Nick: on second though, I think I know what you are talking about: bookmarks that that you have neither tagged nor put in a bookmark folder, ones you have simply "starred" or "bookmarked" with the one-click star. Those can be found in the bookmark organizer inside the special "Unfiled Bookmarks" folder. You can see this folder in the screen shots of the bookmarks organizer window. Again, though typing some keywords, from the bookmark's URL, into the URL bar will bring up these bookmarks, along with items from your history, listing them with a star beside them to indicate they are bookmarks.
Drew
· 1 year ago
I'm still waiting for the most annoying and missing feature - after I search for a bookmark, provide a context menu option to "open folder" where the bookmark is stored.
Yes, I know there is an add-on for this, but it seems that if bookmark management is to be complete, this is one obvious enhancement that would make life easy.
rob
· 1 year ago
I see a lot of delicious users, but i found that Diigo gives me a better service within a better interface, check it out, works better for me. (http://www.diigo.com/)
fohrnicate
· 1 year ago
"Naturally, you can still open the Bookmark dialog with cmd-D (or ctrl-D if you’re not using a Mac)." I remember the days when this would have been funny...
Anthony Podeski
· 1 year ago
Yuck! For those of us who do know how to use bookmark folders and search in 2.x, the bookmarks pane wastes three spots with History, Tags, and All Bookmarks. I wish developers would stop stealing my screen!
Jani
· 1 year ago
Now that I've seen actual screenshots of this, it seems quite neat. Since I use Opera as my main browser, I've been using the keywords you can add for bookmarks as a makeshift tag field since it works kinda like tags. It would definitely be quite nice to have that one click bookmarking feature for example.
Combine the tag search thing in the URL with Opera 9.5's new page content search (which stores content from all pages you visit and can find the pages based on that later), and you'd have a very good way to get back those pages you want.
Who knows, maybe Firefox 3 will make the UI nicer otherwise too - so far it's been much "clunkier" than Opera's, which is one of the main reason I don't like Fx that much.
Gid-seo
· 1 year ago
The ability to search within bookmarks is going to save me so much time. I, like you, am not naturally very organised when it comes to bookmarks, I start off with good intentions and then end up going back to my old ways; always with the intention of tidying it up later...
Hubbers
· 1 year ago
I love the new FF3 but I can't wait for Foxmarks to be updated because my home system's bookmarks are badly out of date.
I tried to export my work bookmarks and importing them at home but FF3 didn't want to accept my old FF2 bookmarks.
Create yourself a login and download the beta for FireFox 3.
Tyler
· 1 year ago
Nice post. I was just wondering what that star thing was at the address bar. Thanks.
Scott
· 1 year ago
Looking forward to del.icio.us tapping into the new bookmark system.
prakhar
· 1 year ago
like most i dont organize my bookmarks and bookmark a lot of pages, but if i can rate them(!) it'll be great. in fact the star in location bar itself could allow me to rate my bookmark right there!
Philipp
· 1 year ago
Nice thing. But is there any possibility to tag several bookmarks at once? Otherwise it could become very annoying to tag the bookmarks :-/
Kama
· 1 year ago
@Dria "but I couldn’t put that bookmark into both the “Vegetable” and “Soup” subfolders at the same time." You actually can do this, but that's really beside the point.
And to others, the Weave initiative does look interesting. I can't wait until it's out of prototype.
Deuce
· 1 year ago
I tried to make changes to a bookmark using the Library screen. I added description and tags. But it doesn't automatically save or give me a save button. The text I type is deleted right away.
Jeff
· 1 year ago
After reading the privacy statement of Foxmarks, I did not really feel at ease with registering there. The Bookmarks Synchronizer plugin was great, but unfortunately was abandoned.
Veronica
· 1 year ago
I've got folders on the bookmarks toolbar and I normally just drag the favicon from the address bar to the appropriate folder - sadly now I'm on a Mac I can't do the same and drop a bookmark directly to the bookmarks pulldown menu like I could on a PC (boo!).
Kurt Hewett
· 1 year ago
This all tagging stuff is great but I think the migration capability is ZERO!!! Here's the problem, You see I was using Firefox 3 happily on windows using the tagging feature (& tagsifter) to organize my bookmarks, then I somehow decided to move on to kubuntu, therefor I exported the bookmarks on to an HTML & imported it to Firefox 3 in kubuntu, when I had a look at my tags they were GONE!!! So I tried Delicious, & exported my bookmarks there just to find the folders as tags instead of the tags I manually entered. Foxmarks gave me the same result (but nice interface though) so I ended up making folders out of the most important tag I was using in my bookmarks (tagsifter has a migration tool that does the exact opposite of this - so maybe it'll help when I'm importing it in my kubuntu firefox 3) by the way the new round back button looks nice too bad its not there in the kubuntu version!!!
All Comments
1. Mozilla should start the new "social" by creating spaces for people to sync their bookmarks across computers saving their bookmarks online, then other stuff will come for sure but that is just a start.
2. Is there a way to standardize a meta tag for "tags" in web pages so this one click bookmarking feature adds the tags by itself?
Nice blog btw!
There are firefox extensions that will let you save your bookmarks online - thus synced across multiple computers.
But, what about Keywords? I have added special keywords to my most used bookmarks so that I can type the keyword in the address bar and the browser will load the bookmark associated with that keyword.
This feature appears to be missing...?
I am sure they'll update it to mesh perfectly with Firefox's built-in system. I can't wait!
Google made one:
http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
https://services.mozilla.com/
Too bad it doesn't work with Firefox 3 yet though.
This seems like an awful lot of information for Firefox to store, and how is it going to effect the memory usage and startup times?
Plus if something should happen, drive failure, file corruption, etc - I just lost all my bookmarks, I don't have that worry with del.icio.us :)
http://labs.mozilla.com/featured-projects/#weave
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/1532
Take the official extension, it's the best.
that's easily the killer feature that make Flock my browser of choice, and what i hope to see available out of the box with Firefox 3.
There are more features, but it's pretty hard to beat on these few alone.
That's countered by the more important one, though. I have a folder in my Bookmarks toolbar in Firefox for the sites I visit daily. Pretty much rain or shine, I visit these ten sites every single day. Without question, these ARE my most-visited sites. And yet somehow the Smart Bookmarks knows not to list them in my Most Visited section. As though it's somehow pieced together that since I have a folder I middle-click every day that takes care of that for me, it can safely ignore those pages and only list the sites I don't access that way.
I'm wondering what logic is going on behind the scenes to direct this behavior, and who at Mozilla knew habits like mine well enough to plan for it. It's arguably the most intelligent behavior I've ever seen in a program of this type, and I love it. Kudos, Mozilla.
- Available on different systems
- The social aspect
- Sharing through widgets is possible
- and more...
google browser sync http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
or foxmarks http://www.foxmarks.com/
Like you, I have a bookmarks sidebar that works if I can remember a search word that will display what I want on a short list.
But more important than fixing this now are the better habits I already have. Have many extensions caught up?
http://del.icio.us
dict whatever
and have it look up whatever on dictionary.com without me having to type it in or use the changeable search on the topright.
I've used both the google and foxmarks product, and though the google product does MORE than sync bookmarks, it is annoying because every two weeks (which comes more often than you think) it forces you to log in again. Foxmarks is excellent, and you can use it in ff35b if you get the beta.
http://blog.foxmarks.com/?p=118
USE FF3?
beta 4 was buggy, but beta 5 is nice, it is definitely time to download. the only drawback is many (about half?) of the extensions out there don't yet support b5. A few of my most critical ones, (FEBE/CLEO, Tab Mix Plus, Better Gmail, Better Greader, and Tiny Menu) still don't work in b5.
For my up to date list of ff3 extensions, check out http://www.twoorthree.net/2008/04/firefox-3-ext...
I didn't read the whole thing but I hope it makes exporting and backing up bookmarks easier as well. Be nice to have a standard here amongst all browsers.
Brilliant, make it even harder to see than before.
And while we are at it. Why is it that you cannot use the CTLR+ to make fonts bigger when you open the Bookmarks in a separate window?
People who cant see can always make fonts bigger in the browser but cant make them bigger in the Bookmarks Manager. No continuity of thought. IF you cant see well in one, your eyesight is still gonna be bad in the other.
Much easier to add bookmarks though.
If you are referring to tagged bookmarks, the article did mention, even shows a picture of accessing tagged bookmarks by opening up the master "Tags" folder in the bookmarks organizer and clicking on a named tag icon. So, you don't need to use a smart bookmarks folder to get at them. Of course the easiest way to access tagged bookmarks is to just type the tag name(s) into the URL bar. When you do, you instantly realize why it has been dubbed the "Awesome Bar", all the bookmarks show up with little tag or star icons. Very intuitive, maybe even natural.
Yes, I know there is an add-on for this, but it seems that if bookmark management is to be complete, this is one obvious enhancement that would make life easy.
Combine the tag search thing in the URL with Opera 9.5's new page content search (which stores content from all pages you visit and can find the pages based on that later), and you'd have a very good way to get back those pages you want.
Who knows, maybe Firefox 3 will make the UI nicer otherwise too - so far it's been much "clunkier" than Opera's, which is one of the main reason I don't like Fx that much.
I, like you, am not naturally very organised when it comes to bookmarks, I start off with good intentions and then end up going back to my old ways; always with the intention of tidying it up later...
I tried to export my work bookmarks and importing them at home but FF3 didn't want to accept my old FF2 bookmarks.
http://blog.foxmarks.com/?p=127
Create yourself a login and download the beta for FireFox 3.
in fact the star in location bar itself could allow me to rate my bookmark right there!
"but I couldn’t put that bookmark into both the “Vegetable” and “Soup” subfolders at the same time."
You actually can do this, but that's really beside the point.
And to others, the Weave initiative does look interesting. I can't wait until it's out of prototype.
The Bookmarks Synchronizer plugin was great, but unfortunately was abandoned.
Here's the problem, You see I was using Firefox 3 happily on windows using the tagging feature (& tagsifter) to organize my bookmarks, then I somehow decided to move on to kubuntu, therefor I exported the bookmarks on to an HTML & imported it to Firefox 3 in kubuntu, when I had a look at my tags they were GONE!!!
So I tried Delicious, & exported my bookmarks there just to find the folders as tags instead of the tags I manually entered.
Foxmarks gave me the same result (but nice interface though) so I ended up making folders out of the most important tag I was using in my bookmarks
(tagsifter has a migration tool that does the exact opposite of this - so maybe it'll help when I'm importing it in my kubuntu firefox 3)
by the way the new round back button looks nice too bad its not there in the kubuntu version!!!